Ban Bossy

Arguer: Sheryl Sandberg
Argument: Girls are less likely to be leaders because they don't want to be called "Bossy."
Counter-Argument: Anyone who values being liked more than being powerful isn't fit to be a leader in the first place.
Arguer's Fault: Harebrained activism.

Ban Bossy PSA: https://youtu.be/6dynbzMlCcw

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Автор Otakyuubi ( назад)
Just don't act bossy. I had a female Class president who thought she was
the boss of me and when I cussed her out, she admitted to having a fucking
bossy nature to the teacher when she heard about our issue.

Автор systematic101 ( назад)
I was called bossy, and ass, a pussy, a dick, a jackass, a looser, and a
ton of other names. Guess what I did. Did give a shit and did what I
wanted. Now I'm employed in a tech field making 6 figures. Weird how words
had no effect on where I ended up. If being called bossy stops you from
becoming a boss then you never had what it takes to be a boss.

Автор Servo Dav ( назад)
im slow clapping ... so solid. not cuz i agree, but it was argued so

Автор Patrick Höhe ( назад)
Am I the only one who thinks that capitalists try to manipulate the people
or am I paranoid?

Автор Bel A ( назад)
And feminists wonder why they're not taken seriously

Автор Harrison Henry ( назад)
The implication isnt that girls are weaker then boys its that we treat them
differently in subtle ways from birth which creates a ton of the deficits
between men and women in our society.

Автор Noah Iwasaki ( назад)
Let's ban a word!

Автор Sable ( назад)
damn, I just want to say that I love your content, the only thing that
might help is if you stop using swear words in your videos, as it makes the
excellently educational content less accessible in, say, a classroom

Автор Krazy Kai ( назад)
What a bossy advert.

Автор Snappy Lights ( назад)
My little brother is bossy. He has only 1 friend. At least he's nice.. and

Автор Anonymous B ( назад)
People just jump on bandwagons without even thinking. It's the norm.

Автор Dante Ratto ( назад)
So was your revisiting of this video just removing the Ana Kasparian clip?

Автор Martin Gutsch ( назад)
Well it's not really a double standard, they just chose one part of the
problem to tackle first.

Автор conrad artchannel ( назад)
Feminism used to be for equal rights and opportunity to break stereotyping
women who didn't want to get married and needed to support themselves only
to find out hard work is well hard work. So they come up with the glass
ceiling and the gender wage gap as an excuse to say why they're not being
promoted or earning the same as a man which is all bullshit. Now they don't
want to be called bossy or bitchy even though women in the workplace or
anywhere can come off as bitchy or bossy just like men can come off as dick
heads or ego driven douche bags. These bossy bitches need to grow up and
stop saying they're always the victims when they're obviously not being

Автор Gijs Olff ( назад)
Good video. i do dislike the "free speech" argument though. isn't telling
someone to not tell you something because it infringes on your free speech
a bit of a contradiction? you're both telling each other not to say

Sure the free speech argument can be made when it concerns law. In this
case however the add is obviously advocating cultural change: making the
word bossy socially unacceptable. In this case using the free speech
argument will always be a contradiction.

(Don't get me wrong, i'm not arguing for the anti-bossy campaign. I'm
simply disagreeing with the free speech argument being valid)

Автор ChipArgyle ( назад)
Ban words. Because cultural Marxism is a good thing, right?
"Ban Bossy" was a twist on humanity's oldest game, the *let's see if I can
control you* game.

Women, as a protected, advantaged class, have *always* thrived on the
double-standards that empower them. And when as a kid I called a little
girl "Bossy", I was merely equating her to a cow, and in no way making
inferences about her potential as a leader.

Автор Gキャット(大阪のキティキャット) ( назад)
Words only matter if you give them power behind them, a confidant person
sees a words as that, a word. As a woman I can say if you think being
called "Bossy" is the only reason why women don't achieve anything, than
why do the wimpy boys fail as well? It is because some are not prepared to
be the boss in a fair manner as mentioned in the video, and not everyone,
male or female, has what it takes to be the boss. If a word hurts you,
you're not prepared to be a boss. Period.

Автор 44GG ( назад)
Why reupload?

Автор Russell Brown ( назад)
This was fucking brilliant!

Автор Ramus Musa ( назад)
Everyone hates their boss. That's it.

Автор apieceofstring ( назад)
Alas, I have but one upvote to give!

Автор Your Dose of Entertainment ( назад)
This is funny because in my class , girls mostly tend to take the
initiative and be leaders than us boys.

Автор Therp Hudley ( назад)
I mean it's a useless campaign, but they aren't petitioning for the
revocation of the first amendment, it's obviously a figure of speech

Автор skies pull ( назад)
begin called bossy is only used for girls.

Автор Chad Aoun ( назад)
Could you please link a reference to where you got the 1 million words in
English thing?

Автор XxKINGatLIFExX ( назад)
I wish I could summarise my points as well as you in my University
Assignments. How do you do it?

Автор Calvin Smith ( назад)
I think the phrase "toxic masculinity" is just a squasher.

Автор Elise Rambles ( назад)
I think another problem with the campaign is that it claims that being
called bossy keeps girls from being successful yet it's told by a bunch of
very successful women who claim they were called bossy as girls.

Автор twdziki ( назад)
WTF America??

Автор Emilie DeWinter ( назад)
I was called bossy when I was a kid. And I was a boy. So I can't help but
feel their logic is flawed.

Автор MJ Boh ( назад)
This is a perfect example of "mansplaining". Thanks.

Автор MilkCap ( назад)
Women blaming men for their own problems, nothing new.

Автор Joey Small ( назад)
Wait so you acknowledged that there was a double standard the creators were
trying to address then when they addressed that double standard you claimed
that they're also committing a double standard by not condemning a
completely different double standard in guys? Seems a bit off. Great video
outside of that.

Автор edward titus ( назад)
rather "may i"

Автор edward titus ( назад)
can I upload this video to share with my Christian friend without the last
section of profanity? 4 stars fellas

Автор Baxter stein ( назад)
Though I agree with you, I think that there is a societal implication that
girls are weaker than boys, and this campaign is pushing to end that.
Still, banning the word bossy is ridiculous, and certainly not the way to
tear down society's stereotypes

Автор go away ( назад)
I swear I've seen this before.

Автор Jacob “SupermanmXYZ” Sullivan ( назад)
this video is win

Автор Oscaragious ( назад)
I feel "Ban Bossy" is nothing more than some feminist power play. It's
something that they want to prove they can do, and that they hope would've
set a precedence for all the other things they want to control and ban.
"Bossy" is not a commonly used word nor is it that offensive to use.

Автор Ashtray ( назад)
this channel is a gem

Автор Holy Atheist ( назад)
Although focusing on a single word is problematic, trying to bring
awareness of the cultural norms that discourage girls from taking
leadership is a noble pursuit. Yes, the derogatory term wimpy used against
boys is an issue, but it doesn't have the same negative and broad cultural
impact on boys as words like bossy have against girls because historically
women have been oppressed for centuries. When examining complex social ills
like racism and sexism, it helps to include the historical context
surrounding the issue, rather than use a single, current, unaffected

Автор Kobalta ( назад)
hey i really like the revised vids, but put some new ones out:P

Автор Alex Smith ( назад)
Labelling people is wrong you misogynist!

Автор BloodyButterfly ( назад)
"Women aren't interested in leadership roles because they're afraid of
being called bossy"?

We don't call a woman bossy who actually IS the boss! We call self entitled
women with no leadership position who like to think and act like they do

Автор Dylan Sepasyar ( назад)
That was easy.

Автор Michael Abrams ( назад)
Dude, you are genius.

Автор James Sunderland ( назад)
"Being labeled something matters". You mean like being labeled racist,
sexist, homophobic, etc.?

Автор SlyNine ( назад)
actually, if you really look at their studies. It doesn't!! even say what
they claim. It actually shows boys more discouraged. they cherry picked the
hell out of that study.

in fact it's boys getting negative messages and failing to launch.

Автор SlyNine ( назад)
boys are labeled as potential rapist. fuck their bossy. how about ban

Автор Achilles ( назад)
Let's ban BOSSYNESS.

Автор Tuko Pomwene ( назад)
besides Beyonce, I honestly thought that the rest of the women in this ad
were suppose to be smart enough to realize the stupidity of what they're

Автор oscar sanchez ( назад)
You know that phrase
"Sticks and stones may brake my bones but words will never hurt me" well
forget about that no one can live up to that now

Автор Goliath Online ( назад)
Is this a re-uploaded version? I remember that in the parting/ending
dialogue you mention that Banning Bossy is one of the reason why people are
not going to take feminism seriously because of how stupid the idea the
banning of bossy is.

Автор mrvvinston ( назад)
wow that extra "y" is causing stupid people to get uppity lol

Автор Weston Parker ( назад)
"Being called 'bossy' ruined my life" - the most successful women in the

On a serious note, what exactly is our society's obsession with leadership?
Why does EVERYONE have to aspire to be a leader? The last thing I want in
life is the burden of leadership; I'm far more content just doing my own
thing. If everyone was a leader, there would be no one to lead. Everyone
would just argue and nothing would get done.

(My hypothesis as to why leadership is pushed so much as an ideal is
because if you promote everybody to some made-up middle management
position, you can pay them salary which means you can work them 80+ hours a
week and not pay them overtime.)

Автор Jasper Powrie ( назад)
I think the campaign sounds more like a push for awareness about how the
meanings of words do affect people and can impose lasting ideas about place
in society or something. The point about censorship is a bit redundant also
because realistically "Ban Bossy" is just a slogan and a positive idea
rather than an actual push for a legislated ban, I would think. I guess
honestly I just don't see how your counter argument adds anything positive
or constructive to the issue. I understand how you can draw a double
standard argument from this but I think it's just a bit petty. I mean the
awareness campaign addresses issues that girls may face because they are
more marginalized and I think it's a good thing to strive to empower
women...because I believe in equity. I tend to subscribe more to the idea
that these pushes for social awareness can and should address many
DIFFERENT facets of society but we shouldn't just shoot down the ones that
don't address issues that immediately affect us or we feel strongly
towards. I just don't buy that people would campaigns like this if they
didn't feel that it was a real issue.

Автор Akira Mishtokaru ( назад)
Grab'em by the bossy!

Автор SgtLion ( назад)
I agree with this video in many ways. But you do state "censorship is
wrong" with very little basis for the statement. While I also agree
censorship is wrong, I'm surprised you make the statement without a
reasoned base. I also wouldn't be surprised to hear that you do support
censorship in certain circumstances, 'cause I bet you do.

Автор Liberal Larry ( назад)
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Автор Chloe H ( назад)
I'm a feminist and although I think "ban bossy" makes a few good points,
it's still unrealistic and stupid ¯\*(ツ)*/¯

Автор BoonceTV ( назад)
Really liking these refreshed arguments and totally support the idea,
particularly for your channel. I don't remember how long the last one was
but this 5 min argument flowed well and the conclusion wrapped it up

Автор Kim Moulton ( назад)
Another way of saying "lean in" is "bend over".

Автор Oliver Lockwood ( назад)
I seriously always wonder whatever happened to the phrase "Sticks and
stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me" when I see stuff
like this. I mean honestly. It's pretty weak to get discouraged by a small

Автор Amit Stein ( назад)
I agree with this initiative being superficial, but can we stop calling
everything made to empower women a "double standard" unless an equivalant
is given for men? This is like saying that raising money for cancer
research is not helping with diabetes research. Yeah, no shit. Of course
this doesn't target every problem because that would be a clusterfuck of a
Raising girls to leadership is enough for one campaign. Just, don't try to
erase a word. That's stupid. This campaign really reminds me of the quote
from that south park episode where they say that PC is just a verbal form
of gentrification. Changing the scenery without fixing the underlying

Автор Riri Corp ( назад)
Nice video c;

Автор Trevor Nimoy ( назад)
can you approach more relevant issues? these are all great videos but you
reference to arguments made like 2014 or before in most.. there is plenty
of material today to be countered haha

Автор Kayle Lang ( назад)
While I did find the campaign ridiculous, I think that was one thing missed
here. While it is true both men and women do face pressures against being a
leader, if one side faces more pressure than another, you might see an
average were one group succeeds more than another. It's less calling women
thin-skinned and more women face more pressure than men when it comes to
leadership. I think this is likely true. I just don't think banning the
word bossy is going to help.

Автор Daniel Davis ( назад)
Do one on the argument, "Abortion is murdering babies."

Автор Martin Sandoval ( назад)
I love that all your videos end in "00". . . The content is pretty okay

Автор Rex “Mind Lord” Smith ( назад)
Was working in a grade 2 classroom. There was this lovely little girl, she
was the queen bee of the classroom. Very popular, intelligent, smart, and
very kind as well. Well, most of the time. She had a bit of a... bossy
streak. I'm not talking about the fact that she was a natural born leader
at 8 years old, or that she was outspoken. It was more to do with the fact
that, occasionally, she would tell students what to do (in a very blunt
manner) - especially if she was frustrated. She caused another student to
cry one time because of it (the student was being deliberately unnatentive
to be "funny" in a PE game, causing their team to lose, multiple times).

Автор Robert Heed ( назад)
I've never thought of "bossy" as a gendered word specifically for females.
I've called dudes bossy before, it's more about the way you carry yourself
when telling people what to do that creates the distinction between being
bossy and being a leader. An obvious example would be someone who commands
people to do things, rather than asking them. That would be a bossy person.

Автор Mongoose ( назад)
All the celebrities that say they were called bossy in school are extremely
successful, and yet they still claim that being called bossy keeps girls
from being successful. There is also the problem of a FEMALE COO is
claiming this as well as the celebrities.

Автор theawecabinet ( назад)
Member the Always 'like a girl' campaign?

Cute girls standing coyly in studio with twinkle music in the background
being urged by feminist director to act more macho and less
.....er........like ..... a .....girl.

Автор theawecabinet ( назад)
The most common mistake when debating feminists is to assume their
arguments are sincere. The Ban Bossy campaign was just the latest strategy
for undermining men's self worth, and positioning women as society's
victims in order to gain leverage over society/ men.

It is no surprise that these women are all driven, self serving, ambitious,
hierarchy climbing bitches.

For women like this female victimhood is a means to an end, and so is
making men feeling shameful, guilty for being a man and protective towards

These women understand that society (especially men) greatly values women's
safety, wellbeing, comfort and happiness. And they are exploiting this fact
by essentially taking themselves hostage (or rather taking their emotional
wellbeing hostage - their feelings) ..... and then issuing their demands.

HERE ARE OUR DEMANDS: Give us more 'affirmative action' and do more walking
on eggshells whenever we are in the room and then we might consider freeing
the women.

These women want to have their cake and eat it. They want a return to the
good old days of traditionalist gender roles, where women are treated as
fragile, weak, delicate flowers (he for she) .... and they want to to be
dynamic, ambitions career women in the rough and tumble world of business
as well.

This mindset is so catastrophic to any business that they are making women

These feminists are just trying to grab everyone with their pussies. And
they're not even asking.

Автор Jammy Sizlo ( назад)
The title of this of this video made me think it had to do with fonts.

Автор devil1360 ( назад)
A little shorter than the original but all the main arguments remained
awesome so thumbs up! :)

Автор amateur match ( назад)
if you are the strong independent woman who believes they can't go into a
higher position because they were called a word, they don't deserve it

Автор Daniel C.kaikkonen ( назад)
Ban Bössy!

Автор Miriam EH ( назад)
I think that for children, being called bossy can be damaging. It's a bit
of an unfair assumption to make, that a child who is afraid of being called
bossy is automatically going to be a bad leader. I would argue that a good
leader cares a lot about what people think of them, because otherwise they
risk being oppressive and ACTUALLY bossy.

You're certainly right about the campaign though. Banning the word isn't
going to fix anything, it is sexist because many boys are called pussies if
they fail to take charge, and it relies on only anecdotal evidence really.
I think the intention is good, and children should be educated on how their
words affect their peers, but this campaign won't achieve anything at all.

I'm open to debate if you disagree :)

Автор Leggon Arm ( назад)
To err is human, so stop correcting and start projecting.

Автор PrimevalTimes ( назад)
Can you add some new counter arguments in between remaking the old ones?

Автор Blookley ( назад)
Love that ending.

Автор Andrew Lantzy ( назад)
These fine tuning episodes are great!

Автор ImATrash ForALotOfShows ( назад)
the end omg XD

Автор joaken1 ( назад)
God damn that is a good one man!

Автор Myles Darling ( назад)
Some ideas are so obviously wrong but it feels hopeless to combat them.
None of those women could do their job and also be that stupid. This sort
of extreme stupidity from otherwise capable people I believe arise because
it invokes a deep satisfaction and makes very deep emotional feed back
loop. If only we knew how to free people from becoming so emotionally
dependent on an idea that they are incapable of looking at it objectively.

Автор ragnell18 ( назад)
1. I haven't even heard about this until now. Do the U.S.A not have bigger
Like your school and health "systems"? This seems to be another form of
unneccessary political correctness.

2. Am I wrong or does stuff like this happen more often in the U.S than
other countries?

Edit after watching the end: Did they fucking CENSOR the word 'bossy'?

Автор rslrandy ( назад)
This is actually a bad refutation of the Ban Bossy video, tbh.

Автор Distran The Gloriously Deformed ( назад)
i know for a fact youve uploaded this before

Автор Myles Darling ( назад)
everything Counter Arguments makes is something I just want to share
everywhere and with everyone. Then I remember that the people who need to
hear it who would never watch it or let them selves doubt.

Автор Maharani Seva ( назад)
where's the "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never
hurt me"? seriously those stupid adults really make young people look

Автор KickYouInTheThroat ( назад)
The fact that banning a word never occurred to them as a direct example of
overbearing attitudes, is telling.
The fact that you need to ban a word in order to cultivate leadership in an
otherwise fragile person, is telling.

Every boy grows up being called a fucking pussy, faggot, wimp, while
constanstly being told to "man up" as a small boy. Much of the time while
dealing with a borderline serious injury. Shit. Where I come from this IS
the character building exercise.

Автор Pelcurus ( назад)
The whole "Lean In" campaign is garbage. Every article on every topic they
discuss, from parenting to workplace ethics, tries to push men to help the
poor, fragile womens. I don't buy into it because I respect women and
consider them my equal.

Автор mrcain ( назад)
Have you always hated women or did it start after they started being put in
positions of leadership?

Автор Fear The Bear ( назад)
didn't you already upload this?

Автор 袁子盁 ( назад)
Nice video 👍🏼

Автор thegreeenbeast ( назад)
If you cant handle being called certain terms you arent fit to lead. Or do
you think bosses and leaders never get shit from their subordinates?

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