Ban Bossy

  • Опубликовано:  6 месяцев назад
  • Arguer: Sheryl Sandberg
    Argument: Girls are less likely to be leaders because they don't want to be called "Bossy."
    Counter-Argument: Anyone who values being liked more than being powerful isn't fit to be a leader in the first place.
    Arguer's Fault: Harebrained activism.

    Ban Bossy PSA: youtu.be/6dynbzMlCcw

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Комментарии: 435

  • luckyboy bindas
    luckyboy bindas 8 дней назад

    Please tell me how to songs like this.... Please, please. I loved it!! 4:42

  • John Smith
    John Smith 23 дня назад

    The idea of banning words that are seen as oppressing women does not create a double standard when men have similar words used against them. Though eradicating all bullying is the end goal, women are definitely discouraged by society to not reach for leadership positions and higher-level jobs. (remember how the pay gap almost entirely goes away if you adjust for which jobs people take)

    That is, unless you would like to posit that the reason they don't reach for leadership positions is that females are somehow lesser than males. If you would like to argue this, the rest of my argument will be entirely unconvincing, so you don't even need to read further before replying something sexist below \/.

    If the sexes are equal biologically, and should be equal in order to promote their search for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, then society is morally obligated to make them equal to men. That is assuming you uphold the values that are ingrained in the US constitution.

    If not, there is still a utilitarian argument that by discouraging, or not encouraging women to reach for leadership positions, we are stifling our productivity and growth by ignoring a large subset of our population that may have powerful leadership and other skills if only we helped develop them as a society.

    Basically, we should try to help all people, especially those that are oppressed (women and minorities) to become leaders.

    Though, I would like to agree that banning the word "bossy" is not likely to achieve this on its own. Instead, our society needs to become conscious of its treatment of women and minorities through compassionate measures. Ad campaigns and media are probably the most powerful means for achieving this since entertainment is typically made to make the protagonist a stand-in for the audience. So, instead of portraying women as weak (as this campaign did), we need to show the ways in which women are uniquely strong in order to make people see the value in these diverse characteristics.

  • Yee Haw
    Yee Haw 24 дня назад

    if you tell a guy hes bossy he'll just tell you to fuck off

    some women need to take the same approach and not feel the need to be protected when someone criticizes them

  • conrad artchannel
    conrad artchannel 28 дней назад

    Dear women,
    Wanna stop being called bossy? Then stop being bossy!
    Sincerely,
    Men

  • OtakuWithAGoodMeme
    OtakuWithAGoodMeme 29 дней назад

    Lol, Ghost Recon Wildlands radio broadcast anyone?

  • SilortheBlade
    SilortheBlade 1 месяц назад

    Good video, even if I don't know that I agree with everything. I will say that this campaign was very poorly worded. Words matter as they say, and banning something is a surefire way to get people's backs up. So much of who we are is shaped by culture (if it wasn't then there wouldn't such a thing as culture), and if we want to level the playing field it means we need to see everyone equally. I will say your comment on wimpy is just terrible. This campaign was focused on gender. One thing. If you think one campaign can focus on all the things then you need to learn a  bit more. That learning should start with how many any bullying campaigns exist, which covers the wimpy analogy. Keep up the good work.

  • Simrat Sinsinwar
    Simrat Sinsinwar 1 месяц назад

    great arguments man! new subscriber now

  • Potatato Pool
    Potatato Pool 1 месяц назад

    you are creative

  • anderson5698x
    anderson5698x 1 месяц назад

    and you wonder why men think women are weak.

  • Remy Beast
    Remy Beast 1 месяц назад

    Who would have thought one word would change a person's entire life course. Yes being called bossy is why a lot of women don't prefer to have leadership jobs, it has nothing to do at all with their interests or priorities in life, got it. I can't believe we as a society have been so blind to the word bossy for so long! I've officially been #woke.

  • M A
    M A 1 месяц назад

    i see your argument and agree with you to some extent. banning one word does absolutely nothing. however the underlying "goal" does have some truth to it. research in personality psychology does show a huge decrease in the female self esteem around the teen age compared to their male counterparts. some psychologists attributed this to language. think of this phrase "throwing like a girl". the phrase out right implies that throwing like a girl is an insult. you find many other forms of such degrading insults in the language.
    out right banning one word does nothing. but there is a problem and spreading awareness about it ( not like that ) is important

  • Andrés Esté
    Andrés Esté 2 месяца назад

    Bruh, giving up on being a leader because someone called you bossy, is like giving up on your dreams because someone called you a try-hard. Teaching kids that words are bad, and that they hurt people, is the fucking reason kids get hurt because of words later on in life. The levels of irony make me want to kill myself.

  • Eric
    Eric 2 месяца назад

    I don't think they meant it literally, geez

  • Michael McCorquodale
    Michael McCorquodale 2 месяца назад

    This is absolutely perfect and logical. It makes one marvel at just how poorly thought through this campaign was.

  • DK Youngson
    DK Youngson 2 месяца назад

    There should just be a ban on banning things.

  • DYlan D
    DYlan D 3 месяца назад

    Being a boss is to be in charge of a group of people. If you're bossy then you have that power but you don't respect the people you have power over.

  • Tiwaking Tiwaking
    Tiwaking Tiwaking 3 месяца назад

    You cant dictate language you fucking fascists

  • D Flatt
    D Flatt 3 месяца назад

    I will never use the word bossy again! Tyrannical, yes .... tyrannical

  • Thepzy_
    Thepzy_ 4 месяца назад

    Bossy is a non-gender specific word, too. :/ I've heard boys be called bossy too.

  • Ricky duz Gamez
    Ricky duz Gamez 4 месяца назад

    Guys, when I was younger I was called..... BOSSY!!!!

  • Crizznik
    Crizznik 4 месяца назад

    While I agree with your conclusion (I don't think banning words helps anything), I have a problem with some of your arguments. Much in the same way as racial slurs, words like "bossy" has a lot more baggage and power than you give it credit for. When it comes to these kinds of things, you have to look at it in the proper context. In the history of female oppression, there are ideas and tactics that have been used to keep women submissive. The idea that women are bossy when trying to exercise authority, while men are just being men, is among the most effective. When used in this context, the word bossy is not being fairly implemented. When men are called bossy, your definition is correct, they are exercising blind authority with no regard to input or constructive criticism, but when women are called bossy, it's in response to any instance of trying to exercise authority, regardless of method.

  • Kevin Octacok
    Kevin Octacok 4 месяца назад

    well said!

  • huckmart 99
    huckmart 99 4 месяца назад

    Cheryl Sandberg: "when I was a kid, I was called bossy"

    and despite that, you grew up to become the ceo of one of the most succesful companies of the 21st century. way to go debunking your own argument by merely existing

  • AegisEpoch
    AegisEpoch 5 месяцев назад

    a little more nuanced than this..

  • Pieter van der Meer
    Pieter van der Meer 5 месяцев назад

    poor bossy women in the 2% wanting to be part of the 1%. let me pull out the world's smallest violin to play a sad song.

  • Chad B
    Chad B 5 месяцев назад

    Hi, can you please do a video on the Spicer speech? This is borderline dictatorial behaviour, and we should all be worried regardless of political affiliation.

  • Otakyuubi
    Otakyuubi 5 месяцев назад

    Just don't act bossy. I had a female Class president who thought she was the boss of me and when I cussed her out, she admitted to having a fucking bossy nature to the teacher when she heard about our issue.

  • systematic101
    systematic101 5 месяцев назад

    I was called bossy, and ass, a pussy, a dick, a jackass, a looser, and a ton of other names. Guess what I did. Did give a shit and did what I wanted. Now I'm employed in a tech field making 6 figures. Weird how words had no effect on where I ended up. If being called bossy stops you from becoming a boss then you never had what it takes to be a boss.

  • Servo Dav
    Servo Dav 5 месяцев назад

    im slow clapping ... so solid. not cuz i agree, but it was argued so solidly

  • Patrick Höhe
    Patrick Höhe 5 месяцев назад

    Am I the only one who thinks that capitalists try to manipulate the people or am I paranoid?

  • Bel A
    Bel A 5 месяцев назад

    And feminists wonder why they're not taken seriously

  • William Harrison
    William Harrison 5 месяцев назад

    The implication isnt that girls are weaker then boys its that we treat them differently in subtle ways from birth which creates a ton of the deficits between men and women in our society.

  • Noah Iwasaki
    Noah Iwasaki 5 месяцев назад

    Let's ban a word!

  • Sable
    Sable 5 месяцев назад

    damn, I just want to say that I love your content, the only thing that might help is if you stop using swear words in your videos, as it makes the excellently educational content less accessible in, say, a classroom setting.

  • Krazy Kai
    Krazy Kai 5 месяцев назад

    What a bossy advert.

  • Snappy Lights
    Snappy Lights 5 месяцев назад

    My little brother is bossy. He has only 1 friend. At least he's nice.. and submissive.

  • Anonymous B
    Anonymous B 5 месяцев назад

    People just jump on bandwagons without even thinking. It's the norm.

  • Dante Ratto
    Dante Ratto 5 месяцев назад

    So was your revisiting of this video just removing the Ana Kasparian clip?

  • Martin Gutsch
    Martin Gutsch 5 месяцев назад

    Well it's not really a double standard, they just chose one part of the problem to tackle first.

  • Gijs Olff
    Gijs Olff 5 месяцев назад

    Good video. i do dislike the "free speech" argument though. isn't telling someone to not tell you something because it infringes on your free speech a bit of a contradiction? you're both telling each other not to say something.

    Sure the free speech argument can be made when it concerns law. In this case however the add is obviously advocating cultural change: making the word bossy socially unacceptable. In this case using the free speech argument will always be a contradiction.

    (Don't get me wrong, i'm not arguing for the anti-bossy campaign. I'm simply disagreeing with the free speech argument being valid)

  • ChipArgyle
    ChipArgyle 5 месяцев назад

    Ban words. Because cultural Marxism is a good thing, right?
    "Ban Bossy" was a twist on humanity's oldest game, the _let's see if I can control you_ game.

    Women, as a protected, advantaged class, have _always_ thrived on the double-standards that empower them. And when as a kid I called a little girl "Bossy", I was merely equating her to a cow, and in no way making inferences about her potential as a leader.

  • キャット G
    キャット G 6 месяцев назад

    Words only matter if you give them power behind them, a confidant person sees a words as that, a word. As a woman I can say if you think being called "Bossy" is the only reason why women don't achieve anything, than why do the wimpy boys fail as well? It is because some are not prepared to be the boss in a fair manner as mentioned in the video, and not everyone, male or female, has what it takes to be the boss. If a word hurts you, you're not prepared to be a boss. Period.

  • 44GG
    44GG 6 месяцев назад

    Why reupload?

  • Russell Brown
    Russell Brown 6 месяцев назад

    This was fucking brilliant!

  • Ramus Musa
    Ramus Musa 6 месяцев назад

    Everyone hates their boss. That's it.

  • apieceofstring
    apieceofstring 6 месяцев назад

    Alas, I have but one upvote to give!

  • Your Dose of Entertainment
    Your Dose of Entertainment 6 месяцев назад

    This is funny because in my class , girls mostly tend to take the initiative and be leaders than us boys.

  • Therp Hudley
    Therp Hudley 6 месяцев назад

    I mean it's a useless campaign, but they aren't petitioning for the revocation of the first amendment, it's obviously a figure of speech

  • skies pull
    skies pull 6 месяцев назад

    begin called bossy is only used for girls.

  • Chad B
    Chad B 6 месяцев назад

    Could you please link a reference to where you got the 1 million words in English thing?

  • KINGatLIFE
    KINGatLIFE 6 месяцев назад

    I wish I could summarise my points as well as you in my University Assignments. How do you do it?

  • Calvin Smith
    Calvin Smith 6 месяцев назад

    I think the phrase "toxic masculinity" is just a squasher.

  • Elise Rambles
    Elise Rambles 6 месяцев назад

    I think another problem with the campaign is that it claims that being called bossy keeps girls from being successful yet it's told by a bunch of very successful women who claim they were called bossy as girls.

  • user
    user 6 месяцев назад

    Bossy. *DUN* oh no I have been banned

  • user
    user 6 месяцев назад

    Bossy, OH NO I HAVE BEEN FIRED

  • twdziki
    twdziki 6 месяцев назад

    WTF America??

  • Emilie DeWinter
    Emilie DeWinter 6 месяцев назад

    I was called bossy when I was a kid. And I was a boy. So I can't help but feel their logic is flawed.

  • MJ
    MJ 6 месяцев назад

    This is a perfect example of "mansplaining". Thanks.

  • MilkCap
    MilkCap 6 месяцев назад

    Women blaming men for their own problems, nothing new.

  • Joey Small
    Joey Small 6 месяцев назад

    Wait so you acknowledged that there was a double standard the creators were trying to address then when they addressed that double standard you claimed that they're also committing a double standard by not condemning a completely different double standard in guys? Seems a bit off. Great video outside of that.

  • edward titus
    edward titus 6 месяцев назад

    rather "may i"

  • edward titus
    edward titus 6 месяцев назад

    can I upload this video to share with my Christian friend without the last section of profanity? 4 stars fellas

  • Baxter stein
    Baxter stein 6 месяцев назад

    Though I agree with you, I think that there is a societal implication that girls are weaker than boys, and this campaign is pushing to end that. Still, banning the word bossy is ridiculous, and certainly not the way to tear down society's stereotypes

  • go away
    go away 6 месяцев назад

    I swear I've seen this before.

  • Jacob Sullivan
    Jacob Sullivan 6 месяцев назад

    this video is win

  • Oscaragious
    Oscaragious 6 месяцев назад

    I feel "Ban Bossy" is nothing more than some feminist power play. It's something that they want to prove they can do, and that they hope would've set a precedence for all the other things they want to control and ban. "Bossy" is not a commonly used word nor is it that offensive to use.

  • Ashtray
    Ashtray 6 месяцев назад

    this channel is a gem

  • Holy Atheist
    Holy Atheist 6 месяцев назад

    Although focusing on a single word is problematic, trying to bring awareness of the cultural norms that discourage girls from taking leadership is a noble pursuit. Yes, the derogatory term wimpy used against boys is an issue, but it doesn't have the same negative and broad cultural impact on boys as words like bossy have against girls because historically women have been oppressed for centuries. When examining complex social ills like racism and sexism, it helps to include the historical context surrounding the issue, rather than use a single, current, unaffected perspective.

  • Kobalta
    Kobalta 6 месяцев назад

    hey i really like the revised vids, but put some new ones out:P

  • Alex Smith
    Alex Smith 6 месяцев назад

    Labelling people is wrong you misogynist!

  • BloodyButterfly
    BloodyButterfly 6 месяцев назад

    "Women aren't interested in leadership roles because they're afraid of being called bossy"?

    We don't call a woman bossy who actually IS the boss! We call self entitled women with no leadership position who like to think and act like they do bossy!

  • Dylan Sepasyar
    Dylan Sepasyar 6 месяцев назад

    That was easy.

  • Michael Abrams
    Michael Abrams 6 месяцев назад

    Dude, you are genius.

  • Ambassador of Kekistan
    Ambassador of Kekistan 6 месяцев назад

    "Being labeled something matters". You mean like being labeled racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.?

  • SlyNine
    SlyNine 6 месяцев назад

    actually, if you really look at their studies. It doesn't!! even say what they claim. It actually shows boys more discouraged. they cherry picked the hell out of that study.

    in fact it's boys getting negative messages and failing to launch.

  • SlyNine
    SlyNine 6 месяцев назад

    boys are labeled as potential rapist. fuck their bossy. how about ban rapist.

  • Achilles
    Achilles 6 месяцев назад

    Let's ban BOSSYNESS.

  • Tuko Pomwene
    Tuko Pomwene 6 месяцев назад

    besides Beyonce, I honestly thought that the rest of the women in this ad were suppose to be smart enough to realize the stupidity of what they're advocating

    • Sarahbellum 1245
      Sarahbellum 1245 6 месяцев назад

      Tuko Pomwene That's the funny thing about a paycheck. It has a strange way of changing one's mind.


  • oscar sanchez
    oscar sanchez 6 месяцев назад

    You know that phrase
    "Sticks and stones may brake my bones but words will never hurt me" well forget about that no one can live up to that now

  • Goliath Online
    Goliath Online 6 месяцев назад

    Is this a re-uploaded version? I remember that in the parting/ending dialogue you mention that Banning Bossy is one of the reason why people are not going to take feminism seriously because of how stupid the idea the banning of bossy is.

  • mrvvinston
    mrvvinston 6 месяцев назад

    wow that extra "y" is causing stupid people to get uppity lol

  • Weston Parker
    Weston Parker 6 месяцев назад

    "Being called 'bossy' ruined my life" - the most successful women in the world.

    On a serious note, what exactly is our society's obsession with leadership? Why does EVERYONE have to aspire to be a leader? The last thing I want in life is the burden of leadership; I'm far more content just doing my own thing. If everyone was a leader, there would be no one to lead. Everyone would just argue and nothing would get done.

    (My hypothesis as to why leadership is pushed so much as an ideal is because if you promote everybody to some made-up middle management position, you can pay them salary which means you can work them 80+ hours a week and not pay them overtime.)

  • Jasper Powrie
    Jasper Powrie 6 месяцев назад

    I think the campaign sounds more like a push for awareness about how the meanings of words do affect people and can impose lasting ideas about place in society or something. The point about censorship is a bit redundant also because realistically "Ban Bossy" is just a slogan and a positive idea rather than an actual push for a legislated ban, I would think. I guess honestly I just don't see how your counter argument adds anything positive or constructive to the issue. I understand how you can draw a double standard argument from this but I think it's just a bit petty. I mean the awareness campaign addresses issues that girls may face because they are more marginalized and I think it's a good thing to strive to empower women...because I believe in equity. I tend to subscribe more to the idea that these pushes for social awareness can and should address many DIFFERENT facets of society but we shouldn't just shoot down the ones that don't address issues that immediately affect us or we feel strongly towards. I just don't buy that people would campaigns like this if they didn't feel that it was a real issue.

    • Anubis
      Anubis 1 месяц назад

      Jasper Powrie Isn't the fact that you assume men aren't as marginalized as women proof of you marginalizing men?


  • Akira Mishtokaru
    Akira Mishtokaru 6 месяцев назад

    Grab'em by the bossy!

  • SgtLion
    SgtLion 6 месяцев назад

    I agree with this video in many ways. But you do state "censorship is wrong" with very little basis for the statement. While I also agree censorship is wrong, I'm surprised you make the statement without a reasoned base. I also wouldn't be surprised to hear that you do support censorship in certain circumstances, 'cause I bet you do.

  • Le pamplemousse
    Le pamplemousse 6 месяцев назад

    The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

  • C L
    C L 6 месяцев назад

    I'm a feminist and although I think "ban bossy" makes a few good points, it's still unrealistic and stupid ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • BoonceTV
    BoonceTV 6 месяцев назад

    Really liking these refreshed arguments and totally support the idea, particularly for your channel. I don't remember how long the last one was but this 5 min argument flowed well and the conclusion wrapped it up nicely.

  • Kim
    Kim 6 месяцев назад

    Another way of saying "lean in" is "bend over".

  • Sebastian Lockwood
    Sebastian Lockwood 6 месяцев назад

    I seriously always wonder whatever happened to the phrase "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me" when I see stuff like this. I mean honestly. It's pretty weak to get discouraged by a small word.

    • LegendLength
      LegendLength 4 месяца назад

      That phrase is fully rejected by the left. That's why they've gone down the gurgler politically.


  • Amit Stein
    Amit Stein 6 месяцев назад

    I agree with this initiative being superficial, but can we stop calling everything made to empower women a "double standard" unless an equivalant is given for men? This is like saying that raising money for cancer research is not helping with diabetes research. Yeah, no shit. Of course this doesn't target every problem because that would be a clusterfuck of a message.
    Raising girls to leadership is enough for one campaign. Just, don't try to erase a word. That's stupid. This campaign really reminds me of the quote from that south park episode where they say that PC is just a verbal form of gentrification. Changing the scenery without fixing the underlying problems.

  • Riri Corp
    Riri Corp 6 месяцев назад

    Nice video c;

  • Trevor Nimoy
    Trevor Nimoy 6 месяцев назад

    can you approach more relevant issues? these are all great videos but you reference to arguments made like 2014 or before in most.. there is plenty of material today to be countered haha

  • Kayle Lang
    Kayle Lang 6 месяцев назад

    While I did find the campaign ridiculous, I think that was one thing missed here. While it is true both men and women do face pressures against being a leader, if one side faces more pressure than another, you might see an average were one group succeeds more than another. It's less calling women thin-skinned and more women face more pressure than men when it comes to leadership. I think this is likely true. I just don't think banning the word bossy is going to help.

  • Daniel Davis
    Daniel Davis 6 месяцев назад

    Do one on the argument, "Abortion is murdering babies."

  • Rex Smith
    Rex Smith 6 месяцев назад

    Was working in a grade 2 classroom. There was this lovely little girl, she was the queen bee of the classroom. Very popular, intelligent, smart, and very kind as well. Well, most of the time. She had a bit of a... bossy streak. I'm not talking about the fact that she was a natural born leader at 8 years old, or that she was outspoken. It was more to do with the fact that, occasionally, she would tell students what to do (in a very blunt manner) - especially if she was frustrated. She caused another student to cry one time because of it (the student was being deliberately unnatentive to be "funny" in a PE game, causing their team to lose, multiple times).

  • Robert Heed
    Robert Heed 6 месяцев назад

    I've never thought of "bossy" as a gendered word specifically for females. I've called dudes bossy before, it's more about the way you carry yourself when telling people what to do that creates the distinction between being bossy and being a leader. An obvious example would be someone who commands people to do things, rather than asking them. That would be a bossy person.

  • Klub
    Klub 6 месяцев назад

    All the celebrities that say they were called bossy in school are extremely successful, and yet they still claim that being called bossy keeps girls from being successful. There is also the problem of a FEMALE COO is claiming this as well as the celebrities.

  • theawecabinet
    theawecabinet 6 месяцев назад

    Member the Always 'like a girl' campaign?

    Cute girls standing coyly in studio with twinkle music in the background being urged by feminist director to act more macho and less .....er........like ..... a .....girl.

  • theawecabinet
    theawecabinet 6 месяцев назад

    The most common mistake when debating feminists is to assume their arguments are sincere. The Ban Bossy campaign was just the latest strategy for undermining men's self worth, and positioning women as society's victims in order to gain leverage over society/ men.

    It is no surprise that these women are all driven, self serving, ambitious, hierarchy climbing bitches.

    For women like this female victimhood is a means to an end, and so is making men feeling shameful, guilty for being a man and protective towards women.

    These women understand that society (especially men) greatly values women's safety, wellbeing, comfort and happiness. And they are exploiting this fact by essentially taking themselves hostage (or rather taking their emotional wellbeing hostage - their feelings) ..... and then issuing their demands.

    HERE ARE OUR DEMANDS: Give us more 'affirmative action' and do more walking on eggshells whenever we are in the room and then we might consider freeing the women.

    These women want to have their cake and eat it. They want a return to the good old days of traditionalist gender roles, where women are treated as fragile, weak, delicate flowers (he for she) .... and they want to to be dynamic, ambitions career women in the rough and tumble world of business as well.

    This mindset is so catastrophic to any business that they are making women unemployable.

    These feminists are just trying to grab everyone with their pussies. And they're not even asking.

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