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Leadbelly - If it wasn't for Dicky



Leadbelly - If it wasn't for Dicky.
Apparently Lead Belly's influence for this song came from an Irish singer by the name of Sam Kennedy and a song he recorded about a farmer and his dead cow, this song is known as "Drimmin Dow". Lead Belly recorded his own take of this song in 1937 and named it "If it wasn't for Dicky".
Then in 1950, The Weavers adapted Lead Belly's version of this song, and turned it into a love song named "Kisses Sweeter then Wine". Seeger and Lee Hays who were part of the band molded their thoughts together for this version, and it ended up hitting #19 on the US hit parade in 1951.


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Автор StoogeKebab ( назад)
Okay so - to throw my 2 cents (or possibly throw my aerosol can into the
fire, whichever metaphor is more appropriate) Based on a recording from a
party in 1948 in Minneapolis, we learn from the introduction that the old
man blames his son Dicky for the cow's (Drimmer's) death (the intro then
fades out due to the condition of the original tape or something before
picking up again part way through the first verse) NOW. One source that
could not have been considered before unless you were in fact listening and
taking notes on August 15th 1948 is a recently released 'lost radio
broadcast' out on LP from Origin Jazz Library. This version has an extended
introduction in which Lead Belly actually says he is singing the words
"musha sweeter than thou" - which is then backed up in the liner notes by
none other than Pete Seeger himself, who misheard the words as Kisses
Sweeter than Wine despite his knowledge of Lead Belly, which is
understandable due to Seeger's constant references to Lead Belly's accent
(particularly on his 1968 tribute LP) and when he misheard the lyrics, in
person in 1949, he filed them in a folder called 'song ideas 1949' which
was then pulled out and rummaged through when looking for a new song after
the success of Irene. NOW. A search for the phrase "mush-a sweeter than
thou" (with the correct hyphen as in the liner notes) reveals lyrics to the
original Irish version of the song. We can see that Lead Belly shifted the
focus of the song slightly creating the character of Dicky, but that in the
original lyrics there is still a very clear element that the old man would
have preferred his son die than his cow, which is how Lead Belly adapted
the idea of it into the physical character of Dicky. As for the other
lyrics, while it doesn't always help, transcription of the original Irish
lyrics can be very helpful, for example, from the original "When they told
the old man that his cow was dead/Over hedges and bushes he fled/Over
hedges and bushes and fields that were plowed" So there's still definitely
some work to go re: transcription, but some pretty good discussion about it
occurred over at Weenie Cambpell Forums. +Elena Reed +TheShoreman1 +
toribjork10 

Автор jaime mateu ( назад)
esto va mas aya de esto y de aquello...

Автор Erik Knutson (1479 лет назад)
They don't write like this anymore.
Leadbelly - If it wasn't for Dicky

Автор Elena Reed ( назад)
I'm finding the lyrics variations discussion fascinating. Great song. Thx
aerosolchef for posting. #leadbelly

Автор Nickolas “Nikailen” Elliott ( назад)
Good ol' Leadbelly.

Автор TheShoreman1 ( назад)
My lyrics may not be exactly right. ...but most of you "second guessers"
are so far off that it is laughable. I know the traditional song, but
clearly leadbelly is singing his own version.... well you all are smarter
than me, more versed in traditional Insular Celtic folk music and know way
more about raising cows. ....Oh and, of course, way more in tune with the
Southern slang of that time period. Go ahead shit on my effort. But yours
is bullshit nonsense. Sorry to be blunt but....

Автор marco antonio ( назад)
el cantante de nirvana era buenisimo pero para la musica la mente no
cualquier persona conprende el significado de la musica gracias 

Автор recomputed ( назад)
Ahead of his time ….

Автор neighborhoodhoodlum ( назад)
My great grandfather looks just like him

Автор neighborhoodhoodlum ( назад)
Best leadbelly tune

Автор Lynette Komidar ( назад)
Paul, I checked out all the available data on this track .. wow, I am
listening to it again... I passed it around to my muso mates. Thank you..

Автор Paul Overbey ( назад)
This IS 'Kisses Sweeter than Wine'...sort of. Pete Seeger of The Weavers
co-opted it into their repertoire, they re-wrote the lyrics...previously
Ledbetter adapted this tune from an Irish singer (Sam Kennedy I believe?
could be wrong) who was in New York performing a traditional Irish tune
called 'Drimmin' Dow' and Ledbetter made his own version....'If it Wasn't
for Dicky'

Автор Bloocky Blockblock ( назад)
From Matthew Presti

Автор Dirk Puehl ( назад)
"Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on
a rainy Sunday afternoon." (Susan Ertz)

Thus, it was actually a good thing that +john williams shared an old Lead
Belly song to his stream... I haven't listen to Lead Belly in ages, fired
up a stream on YT and promptly found this gem, one of the very few mashups
between the Blues and Irish Folk from the earlies I know of - quoth
wikipedia:

"Apparently the folk musician Lead Belly heard Irish performer Sam Kennedy
in Greenwich Village singing the traditional Irish song "Drimmin Down" aka
"Drimmen Dow", about a farmer and his dead cow. (The song, in fact, is
called "An droimfhionn donn dilís" ("The whitebacked brown faithful
cow/calf"). It is of the type categorised as "aisling" (dream) where the
country of Ireland is given form. Most times the form is that of a comely
young woman but here it is the faithful handsome cow. Lead Belly adapted
the tune for his own farmer/cow song "If it Wasn't for Dicky" which he
first recorded in 1937. Lead Belly did not like the lack of rhythm, which
had been a part of many free flowing Irish songs, so he made the piece more
rhythmic, playing the chorus with a 12-string guitar."

The tune ended up as "Kisses Sweeter than Wine" in the 1960s...

Автор LAM PARKINSON ( назад)


Автор Winfield Dray ( назад)


Автор Lynette Komidar ( назад)
from a G chord run down the E string from G to open E

Автор Lynette Komidar ( назад)
I hear 'Kisses Sweeter than Wine', eh? I have never heard this song before.
Leadbelly changed my life in '66.

Автор Mazzeppa * ( назад)
she-cow got too old to give milk, so they beat her to death, hocked her up
for fodder...poor Drimma. Now only Dicky is left. He'll soon go the way of
all cows too.

Автор Mazzeppa * ( назад)
oh, oh, switches beated her down. And if it wasn't for dicky, i would tell
you right now, but his old man he had but one cow/ He would send her to the
field to be fed/ and the way they beat old Drimma raw dead. oh, oh,
switches beated her down..(2nd verse "paid a visit to his wife til he came
to his cow")....When he first saw Drimma she was in the green grass/ that
carter-man passed that Drimma so fast/ She gave her milk freely without any
bale/ but the blood of her life spilled out of the pale

Автор HerrMagog ( назад)
Preachers sweeter than damned?

Автор TheShoreman1 ( назад)
I have listened to that part over and over again and cannot make out what
he is actually singing. The gist of it is that the cow was his main
concern. So... I sing it "had no worry in life 'til it came to his cow."

Автор 1L2E3V4I ( назад)
never privy to his wife (or life?) til it came to his cow - maybe?

Автор Chris Ryan Casbarro ( назад)
He would send her to the fields to be fed, and it were to be till Drimmin'
dropped dead.

Автор HerrMagog ( назад)
One of my favourites with John Hardy. Those songs are so gloomy and warm at
the same time.

Автор kratoplasm ( назад)
Check out Rasputina's cover of this, called Wicked Dickie.

Автор a10gary ( назад)
Dilla knows his shit.

Автор iraplikeyoubreathe ( назад)
Sounds like eddies in the chorus second time hedges then eddies

Автор Connor Flynn ( назад)
Stay tuned. The Reds from Bellingham, WA have worked out the most accurate,
emotionally provoking version of this song since Pete Seeger reworking. We
recorded the song a couple months ago, and will be available soon. We hope
that what we've done to this song help you all in you endeavor to
understand and feel the true meaning of this song. Our music can be found
here. ENJOY!

Автор Connor Flynn ( назад)
Well, I'm disappointed in everyone. Very poor ears.

Автор RacingMindPress ( назад)
What are the complete lyrics?

Автор OtisFan1 ( назад)
Thanks for your parody lyrics. I've been laughing so hard that my sides
hurt. Seriously, I remember many years ago hearing this for the first time
and saying, "Hey, that's 'Kisses Sweeter Than Wine' (which I knew from the
Jimmie Rodgers hit)"--Leadbelly adapted his version from an Irish
farmer-&-cow song, then the Weavers got the tune from Leadbelly and changed
it into a guy-&-gal song. Such is folk music.

Автор HiramLazarusChristian Rosenkreuz ( назад)
ooh, ooh which is sweeter than jam?

Автор RacingMindPress ( назад)
anyone know the tabs/chords to this or what album or CD collection you can
find this on?

Автор toribjork10 ( назад)
i think it's "over hedges and ditches and fields he had fled, over hedges
and ditches and fields he had plowed...."

Автор mwaddisfilms ( назад)
jamma saw past. she gave a me a feeling without any feels. but the blood of
her lice still doubt of her pail. so now i sit down and eat my dry meals
but i have no butter to put in my teeth. I have no milk to soppa my bread
but the way the big ole jamma jaw did. and if if weren't for dickie...
thats what I got. pretty sure its accurate

Автор mwaddisfilms ( назад)
ooh corn bitches bigger than damn. and that everyone but dicky i would tell
you right now was the old man and he had but one cow. he would sent her to
the feilds to be fed. and there were no bid of jam that dropped dead. oh
corn bitches bigger than damn. when the old man heard that his cashew was
dead, overhead some old bitches untll he had fled, overheaddies and bitches
and peer that look plow. dkjfhkj wife came to his cow. when he first saw
joshua the green grass no cow the mad bad that

Автор akerswizard779 ( назад)
It's the blues. There are know written words. Just do the best you can.

Автор TheShoreman1 ( назад)
I am well aware of "Drimmin Down" and the various traditional lyrics. The
lyrics that I posted were my best guess of what Leadbelly was singing on
this version. They may be wrong in parts, but Leadbelly does not sing "a
sourful ditty". The first time he sings "everyone but dicky" and then later
"if it wasn't for dicky". I don't think Leadbelly was singing in Gaelic
either.

Автор Aaron McCoy ( назад)
dude was a stone cold killer

Автор Anna Wayland ( назад)
There's an earlier recording of this Leadbelly did for the Lomaxes which I
prefer. It has more energy and tempo. Came out on Smithsonian of his
Library of Congress recordings.

Автор TheShoreman1 ( назад)
Oops typo, few should be fed. Each time it says Ooh Ooh.... that means Ooh
Ooh, which is sweeter than Dow? repeats. Still can't get two short
phrases,but any descent bluesman will just make up the bits they can't
understand or remember and then say that they wrote the song!

Автор GraysonBard ( назад)
Does anyone have the chords or tab for this song? Much appreciated!

Автор TheShoreman1 ( назад)
Thats the best I can come up with.

Автор TheShoreman1 ( назад)
No ?????? that drimmin saw passed?? she gave her milk freely without any
veal but now the blood of her life spilled out of her veil Ooh Ooh... so
now I sit down to eat my dry meal but I have no butter to put in my tea. I
have no milk to sop with my bread like it were to be til drimmin dropped
dead. Ooh Ooh... and if it wasnt for dickey I would tell you right now but
his old man he had but one cow. He would send her to the field to be fed
and it were to be til drimmin dropped dead. Ooh Ooh...

Автор TheShoreman1 (228 лет назад)
Ooh Ooh, which is sweeter than dow? And everyone but dicky I would tell you
right now there was and old man and he had but one cow. He would send her
to the fields to be few and it were to be til drimmin dropped dead. Ooh
Ooh... When the old man heard that his cow she was dead over hedges and
ditches and fields he had fled. over hedges and ditches and fields that
were plowed never (XXX to XXX?) til it came to his cow. Ooh Ooh... when he
first saw drimmin she was in the green grass...

Автор QuintinPenola ( назад)
hes a true songster

Автор Tetsuos2ndComing ( назад)
I keep hearing Oohhh, oohh, witches wade at the dam... and at the end of
the second verse, it sounds like he sings, And a premature wife daddy gave
you his cow... 8>}

Автор brainburrito ( назад)
Thanks for the great song uploads and detailed info! You are very thorough.

Автор allenshepard ( назад)
@trilobite3339 This is actually drimmers cow and later the weavers rewrote
some of the lyrics well most of them and it then became kisses sweeter than
wine. alot of these older lyrics are hard to find. you might have luck on
the roger mcguinn folk den site and you can contact him he may be able to
help also

Автор Dartwith (1505 лет назад)
Beautiful Noise, thank you :]

Автор 0geez (1469 лет назад)
@trilobite3339 scribd.com/doc/64991500/If-It-Wasn-t-for-Dicky-Lyrics

Автор PsychosicLP ( назад)
thank you i love this song!!!

Автор Art Homer ( назад)
Done by others as "Wicked Dicky"

Автор kenjikent ( назад)
@wms72469 Complete Recorded Works Vol 6 1947

Автор justforever96 ( назад)
@trilobite3339 LOL, I think I can barely make out the lyrics to less than
half of his songs, but he is one of my absolute FAVORITE singers/musicians
EVER. I never knew he wrote the music to "Kisses Sweeter Than Wine", but
it's not surprising at all, considering the vast influence he had on music
in general. A true legend, but under-appreciated.

Автор fuckyoutube ( назад)
some of the fun in singing these real old songs is that u can change SOME
of the words around, like eveyone else has done to his songs its folk music

Автор Manganzy ( назад)
Hi man ! I really really thank you !!! I don't understand everything but I
now I can begin to sing ! Thanks again !

Автор Manganzy ( назад)
Hi, I'm french so I'm not good in english. I would really know the lyris of
this song ! you're talking about it but but you never show it. Please let
me know. I would of course prefer to know what leadbelly is exactly saying
but I understand it's not possible ! I'll take what you got ! Thanks in
advance.

Автор osensei75 ( назад)
@controlesexism I would love to see your interpretation of "Dicky" lyrics.
My favorite LeadBelly song of all time. Please Pleeease respond. I've never
been able to understand enough to even guess at what he says.

Автор oupsenjoy ( назад)
Incredible sounds.....

Автор Cwray27 ( назад)
@kenjikent my response to every Leadbelly song

Автор kenjikent ( назад)
someone tell me the lyrics pls!!

Автор upaluppa ( назад)
@mightybisons I apologize, I never noticed that I removed my video response
by accident until now. I actually uploaded the two Drimindown versions from
my folk collection to youtube months ago but I never reposted the response
to your video until now.

Автор diecast jam ( назад)
@pauloverbey1 I think it's a touch faster and al (the other version I
mean)l, I've heard a good few other of his songs on here that are better
quality than the ones I have on the likes of Gwine dig hole, and the
library of congress albums, great stuff anyway,it's a pity I don't see the
tab for this or his version of house of the rising sun, any place on-line
if any of you guys know where I can get either or both of them from i'd
much appreciate it.

Автор m pres ( назад)
I can play this on guitar, but can't figure out the words to save my life.
Cant find it online anywhere... Anybody know? Such an awesome song!

Автор upaluppa ( назад)
In case you're interested, I have a recording of the old Irish song Lead
Belly's "If it Wasn't for Dicky" is based on!

Автор NO ( назад)
@michaelpatrickfox then i stand corrected haha

Автор michael patrick fox ( назад)
@izaks14 It's the other way around. Leadbelly learned this song in NYC in
the 1930's from Irish folksinger Sam Kennedy, but wrote new words to it.

Автор whitestripebuzz ( назад)
My favourite Leadbelly song.

Автор NO ( назад)
Another blues song turned white lol

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