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USS Iowa vs IJN Yamato *REMADE*



remade this, my other Iowa vs Yamato video kind of sucked, let me know what you think of this and and subscribe

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Автор AmericanThunder (4 месяца)
Why would Iowa get so close instead of staying at great range and using her
radar assisted fire control to score accurate hits while the yamato chases
colored shell splashes and prays for a lucky hit?

Автор UnknownPerson onGoogle (3 месяца)
To all the stupid and ignorant Americans mentioning HMS Hood, Hood was not
a battleship she was a BATTLECRUISER and the Germans only sunk her due to a
VERY lucky long range hit which happened as she was half way through a turn.
Even the Germans knew they scored a lucky hit.

Hopefully this will dispel some of the unneeded and unwanted arrogance from
Americans.

Автор seimeisen mijikai (28 дней)
YAMATO vs BISMARCK Please.

Автор Pradhitya Bayu (2 месяца)
yamato is better than iowa.. yamato is super-battleship class, 

Автор 新井利昌 (1 месяц)
Both battle ships are so beautiful! And so are the flag of the rising sun
and the stars and strips. 

Автор OMGDUDEWTH (28 дней)
iowa has superior speed and more accurate guns. at the ranges the us will
be shooting at the yamato will be guessing at best

and no dont gimme the longer range shit. japnese fire control/radar has no
hope of actually hitting things close to the max range of those 18 inches

Автор joekidd1992 (13 дней)
America wins again!!!

Автор Gary Sellars (1 месяц)
Amerikkkan shit...

Автор Ariff Danial Azizan (4 месяца)
Yamato is the best ship that japan ever build Yamato need to win uss lowa
is not the best ship ever build you suck you don't know about Yamato you
fuck turd


Автор DoubleMrE (1 месяц)
Since larger guns have longer range, I think its only common sense that
Yamato could've beaten an Iowa class in a one-on-one fight if it could stay
beyond their range, and within their own. But that would be difficult,
given the Iowa's greater speed. The fact is that either ships guns were
powerful enough to sink the other regardless of both ships armor
protection. I think the most important factor would be the experience of
the officers and crews. Of course, a lucky hit on a magazine by either side
would be doom for the other.

The USN had plans in the works to build an even bigger class than the
Iowas. The 'Montana' class would've equaled the Yamato class in size,
though they would've still been armed with 16" guns (but would've had 12 in
four turrets as opposed to the Iowas with 9 guns in three turrets).

Автор SvenTviking (9 месяцев)
Something you guys ought to think about. No dreadnought or superdreadnought
battleship ever sank another dreadnought or superdreadnought solely with
it's guns. Never happened, not once. Battleships may have crippled or
stopped other battleships but all sinkings were either by torpedo, aircraft
bombs or scuttling. Please don't start listing off battlecruisers.

Автор Dylan Weinstock (2 месяца)
Even though that is true the HMS Hood was doomed any way. She was no mach
for the Bismarck 

Автор jawedz (8 дней)
greetings from japan. there is a discussion and some boasting bellow about
a radar system of iowa class. fyi, yamato class was fitted with a radar
system circa 1943. though it might be less reliable and capable than an
american radar, it was used in the battle of layte gulf when yamato's
46cm-18in gun hit an american light aircraft carrier.

Автор 赤賀熊 (2 месяца)
おいおいおいwアイオワと大和じゃ大和の方が強いぞ?
何自分の国強調してんのよww


Автор matt adler (1 месяц)
man thats bullshit the yamato had enough armor to take the firepower
against battleships and then sinks really totally bullshit, so what iowa
got a hit on turret no. 2 these two another turret could still fire and
skin the iowa. totally bullshit i say.

Автор 98755785a (26 дней)
The bottom line is that, after 1943 or so, having the world's best optical
fire-control systems was largely irrelevant. The night battle between
Washington and Kirishima near Savo pretty much settled the point; good
radar usually beats good optics in a stand-up fight. And the radar used by
Washington off of Guadalcanal was not as good as the sets fitted aboard
Iowa.6
Then there's the fact that all radar fire-control is not created equal.
Radar operating at meter or decimeter wavelengths is useful for ranging,
but lacks the angular accuracy necessary for training. In practical terms,
this means that a decimetric set can develop a range solution via radar,
but must rely on an optical director to supply training information for the
battery. This hybrid fire-control solution is, of course, limited by the
quality of the optics available, and also by the visual horizon (which is
closer than the radar horizon), and weather conditions. Only with the
advent of 10cm and (later) 3cm wavelength sets was true 'blindfire' radar
fire-control achievable, wherein the firing ship need never come into
visual range of the opposing vessel. The Germans, Japanese, and Italians
never developed sets of this capability (both the Japanese (despite its
10cm wavelength) and German sets were usable for fire control against a
battleship-sized target only out to a range of about 27,000 yards.) The
bottom line is, then, that the Allied vessels, and particularly Iowa and
South Dakota, would enjoy an enormous advantage in gunfire control over
their adversaries. She would have the ability to lob shells over the visual
horizon, and would also perform better in complete darkness or adverse
weather conditions.

The final adjusted rating also reflects the fact that American FC systems
employed by far the most advanced stable vertical elements in the world. In
practical terms, this meant that American vessels could keep a solution on
a target even when performing radical maneuvers. In 1945 test, an American
battleship (the North Carolina) was able to maintain a constant solution
even when performing back to back high-speed 450-degree turns, followed by
back-to-back 100-degree turns.7 This was a much better performance than
other contemporary systems, and gave U.S. battleships a major tactical
advantage, in that they could both shoot and maneuver, whereas their
opponents could only do one or the other.

Автор 007NeverEnd (4 месяца)
me parece muy poco apegado a la realidad las armas del yamato eran muy
superiores a las de cualquier buque existente sobre la faz de la tierra en
ese momento ni 3 clase iowa juntos podrían haberlo hundido, claro sin apoyo
aéreo


Автор Feb Harry David (20 дней)
How about IJN A-150(Super Yamato) vs Iowa >:3

Автор Rob L (1 месяц)
Radar was not that accurate especially a long range, it might have been
able to get the guns within 5 degrees at best. And don't forget Yamato
also had radar, granted not radar controlled gun fire and not as good as
the Americans. Yamato's big advantage is armor, she had a lot of it, in a
gun duel she would have been very hard to sink even for the Iowa. Iowa's
armor on the other hand was not sufficient to match up against Yamato. 

Автор Niklas H. (3 месяца)
Die jamato war zwar stärker gepanzert und hatte mehr geschütze aber hatte
eine sehr schlechte luftabwehr. So waren kamikaze flieger gegen die
missouri zwecklos den die flieger der jamato kamen nicht einmal bis zur
missouri durch befor sie von der luftabwehr getroffen worden sind. So wurde
die yamato am ende von der missouri versunken 

Автор stupidonduty (3 месяца)
I liked the commentator's extended explanations!

Автор Jade West (7 дней)
It looks like a Montana ship because usually lowa class only carry
helicopters Montana carry plane

Автор Oswald Cobblepot (7 месяцев)
Lots of butthurt in here. Yamato was comprised of lousy armor and was
inferior to the Iowas in every single way, other than having "bigger main
guns." All 4 Iowas are still afloat today, and have a proud and lengthy
service history. Both Yamato Class ships have a short and not so proud
service history, and both are under water...

Автор Steve White (2 месяца)
Hint: men on deck while main battteries are firing is instant death and or
deafness.....everything thing above main deck is behind some sort of armor
for a reason....even life boats are under armor on the Yamato class......

Автор Ammo Alamo (1 месяц)
A lot of the Iowa/Yamato comparison depends on when it supposedly takes
place - when the Iowas are first at sea with inexperienced crew, facing
experienced Yamato crews, or during 1944 when things are going badly for
Japan and the Iowas have some experience, or near war's end when the Yamato
has to be sent out with a one-way load of fuel, partly because that is all
the available fuel and partly to make sure the Yamato captain did not turn
tail at the point of action.

There was never a point in WW II where the conditions were right: Yamato in
battle-ready condition, an Iowa battleship in equivalent battle-ready
condition, both ships within a few hundred miles of each other and equally
supported or not supported by land and carrier air. So never would there
have been any heroic Yamato/Iowa face-off to see who would win or lose .
Nor was there any chance of using the battleship power alone to decide the
ships' fates. At no time would a one-on-one confrontation have
been acceptable to either force, except perhaps as a face-saving attempt
late in the war by the Japanese.

So Yamato vs. Iowa would not have happened, except in the fervid
imaginations of armchair warriors with an axe to grind (a virtual axe) and
of course a favored ship.

I would say, if a virtual Yamato/Iowa battle were to occur, then Yamato
wins if:
A. she surprises Iowa at night and has her usual surround of cruisers and
destroyers firing the incredibly effective Long Lance torpedoes, and
B. the Iowa is encumbered by a support force comprised of the usual US Navy
early-war ignoramus captains and admirals with no sense of a battle plan,
no understanding of how to react to an attack, and no willingness to
quickly get into the Iowa's strength: battle joined from certain
advantageous distances, using spotting aircraft, and employing
the destroyer screen to best advantage instead of letting them foul the
radar and get in the way of the sight lines of the battle ships.

Iowa wins if:
A. Battle is joined near daylight and continues into daylight, reducing the
Japanese extensive training and experience in night fighting, and allowing
US radar to be employed to full advantage as a range finding and
director-control device, and
B. US forces maintain clear communication so that the US Navy battle ships
can get into fighting distance quickly, and get clear lines of fire, and
C. Destroyer and cruiser forces attack with guns and torpedoes but work
under the direction of the battle leader and stay clear of the battle ship
guns, and
D. US Navy spotter planes accurately report fall of shot, and
E. All other US aircraft keep radio traffic to a minimum and to a
professional standard, instead of their usual habit of spewing senseless
noise, so much so that airplane radio wavelengths all become clogged with
shouts and hollers and nearly become useless as a modern battle tool.

As for Japanese naval on-the-scene leadership, remember, at Leyte, the Japs
had the day won, but their commander feared more US ships would appear out
of nowhere. Those US Navy ships were still hours away, because the complex
jap attack plan had for once worked perfectly to draw Halsey's main forces
far away from the main thrust of the Japanese attack.


So for fear of potential defeat, the Japanese leader at Leyte Gulf did a
180 degree retreat, despite winning the fight on every level. The Jap
retreat was gratefully received by the captains and crew of several damaged
and sinking US Navy destroyers and escort carriers. The US Navy forces had
bravely and fiercely attacked against unwinnable odds, and won the day only
by throwing their ships onto the shells and torpedoes of the attacking Jap
forces until the Japanese retreated for no good reason at all, despite
having way more firepower and armor than the US navy force arrayed against
them.

There would never have been a 1:1 Iowa/Yamato face off, because that's not
the way the US Navy allowed its battleships to work; they were essentially
big shore bombardment platforms, equally useful for their twenty 5"/38
anti-aircraft cannon firing the top-secret proximity fused shells,
plus their too-many-too-count 40mm Bofors and 20mm Oerlikons, many of which
were director controlled.

The Jap Long Lance torpedoes were fearsome weapon systems, much more
effective than the US counterparts, so much more effective that for some
months the US Navy really did not have a torpedo worth the name. If the
Yamato battle group got within torpedo range of an Iowa battle group it
would be hard to see how the Iowa group could respond in kind at all, much
less stay afloat for long.

As for the alleged US Navy's radar advantage, it is just so much hot air.
When properly trained and fully equipped, the Japanese naval night fighting
equipment was fully the equal of US Navy radar at short and medium ranges
as shown by actual battle data during the fights around Guadalcanal (no
long range data is available for comparison). The Japanese officers and
sailors, at least the fully trained crews available near the beginning of
the war, were better than their US Navy counterparts in training and
in proper battle responses. Witness the November 14 night action near Savo
Island where a modern US Battleship was effectively taken out of the fight
by Jap cruisers and destroyers alone, with a lot of help from a lone
US ill-trained electrician officer who screwed up the battleship's breaker
system to the point he nearly got his own ship sunk.

Автор ssmusic214 (1 месяц)
IJN Yamato 40 cm/45 Type 94 naval gun:

Effective firing range 25 km (16 mi)
Maximum firing range 42 km (26 mi) at 45° elevation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_cm/45_Type_94_naval_gun

USS Iowa 16"/50 caliber Mark 7 gun:

Maximum firing range 23.64 mi (38 km)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16%22/50_caliber_Mark_7_gun

Автор さんたか (1 месяц)
色々おかしい所が満載なので書かせてもらおう。

1)大和の火力、防御力及びアイオワの火力、防御力。
戦艦は自分の主砲火力に耐えれるように設計されている。(どの国でも基本的に同じ)つまり大和のバイタルパート(主砲塔、弾薬庫、缶室ect)は46cm砲の直撃に耐えられるようにできている。(数発同箇所に被弾すればその限りではない)
しかしアイオワの主砲は40.6cmにもかかわらず、大和主砲塔天蓋部分及び煙突部分に1発ずつ命中しただけで貫通している。しかも艦上部に被弾したはずが、なぜか艦首喫水線下(水面の下)から浸水しそのまま沈没。(キングストン弁でも開けたのかな?艦首にはないけど)
それに対しアイオワはおそらく右喫水線下に大和主砲が直撃し傾斜しているにも関わらず主砲を発射、命中させている。艦が傾斜した状態で撃っても基本的に命中しないし、むしろ傾斜が一定を超えると主砲を発射できない。(46cm砲弾が喫水線下に命中したときにアイオワの装甲であの程度の傾斜ですむのかも疑問だが)

2)交戦距離が近すぎること。
昼間の戦艦同士の砲戦でこれほど近距離での砲戦はまず発生しない。(しかもアイオワはレーダー管制射撃で視界外から撃てる。)
副砲や両用砲が届く距離は近すぎる。(見張りは寝てたのかな?)

以上のことからこの動画はただアイオワを格好よく勝たせたいが為の公平さも何もない動画だと思われる。(アイオワの利点すら帳消しにしている。)
もちろん公平に戦った場合もアイオワに全く勝目がないと言うことではないが(主砲の連射速度はアイオワの方が速い)、この動画の通りに大和が被弾した場合、主砲塔は一撃で破壊されることはないし、煙突根元は火災が発生するだけに留まる可能性が高い。(仮に動画の通りに破壊されても沈没はしないが。)

アイオワが大和に勝つ方法があるとすれば、レーダー管制射撃による遠距離射撃と大和よりも優れた発射間隔により、大和が射撃できる距離に入る前に畳み掛ける事ではないだろうか?
(大和はレーダー管制射撃ができないため、「敵の射程外から一方的に撃破する」と言う46cm砲の戦略は破綻している。)

Автор Matthew Day (2 месяца)
not realistic at all 

Автор Luke Yama (6 месяцев)
Yamato could out-range attack.
Nevetheless, why ????

Автор Ken Whitcomb (4 месяца)
Beware of "paper" ships. Yamato was big and impressive; an amazing piece
of construction. The Japanese are justly proud of the her. But both
Yamato and sister Musashi succumbed quickly to air attacks they were
designed to survive. They had the biggest anti-aircraft batteries of their
day including anti-aircraft shells for her main guns. The Japanese
themselves passed judgement on the class when the third ship was converted
to an aircraft carrier. Shinano was sunk on her maiden voyage by the
submarine Archerfish partially due to the belief of her captain that
American torpedoes were weak and could not possibly sink such a huge and
well-armored ship. It only took four of them to send her to the bottom.

Автор Colbz Sinking Simulator and more (3 месяца)
189 people hate Americans :D

Автор Kratons (25 дней)
Ohhhhh that Shell-fly-by sound.........

Автор 松本康二朗 (2 месяца)
大和の射程の方が長いはずです。

Автор kornek21 (7 месяцев)
the yamato was designed to deal with the Iowa class battleships, and at a
distance where the iowa classes wouldnt even be in distance to fire back.

Автор Shannon Mcvey (1 месяц)
John McGlan - The Iowas were NOT longer than the Yamatos. NOR were they
designed to destroy the Yamatos. The Iowas were well under construction
before ANYONE outside the japanese high command even knew that the Yamatos
had even been DESIGNED, let alone what they were capable of. You are
thinking of the MONTANA class ships which were still under construction
when the Yamato and Musashi were finally sunk by aircraft. The Yamato had
radar like the Iowa, and the Yamato's guns outranged the Iowas by almost 5
nautical miles. She also had nearly identical speed. If these two
behemoths had ever had the misfortune to meet on the high seas, in good
weather, the Iowa would have been on the bottom likely before she ever had
a chance to fire a shot.

Автор TOY5OLDI3R24 (8 месяцев)
MY GOD the first thing i noticed before the battle even started is how
stupid the un-named "Iowa class" is in this video! THE TURRETS ARE
COMPLETELY WRONG!! THOSE LOOK LIKE TURRETS FROM THE NEW MEXICO CLASS

Автор 冯剑锋 (3 месяца)
lol its a tie

Автор konnar kober (5 месяцев)
whats the game called

Автор Robert Cole (8 дней)
USS Iowa vs IJN Yamato *REMADE*: https://youtu.be/JSytv7RABDc

Автор kristama kasso (5 месяцев)
But yamato is more stronger than iowa

Автор Ender bomb (26 дней)
All hail the mighty Yamato. Like if you agree.


Автор DonMaurizio Settimus (3 месяца)
Gówno.....merda.....

Автор Mansai Nomura (6 месяцев)
masturbation movie

Автор smyers820gm (5 месяцев)
You guys are all nuts. There is secret proof that Godzilla turned up and
ate that bitch before anyone could sink her!!!

Автор carpenterbear (7 месяцев)
18 inches guns, great armour, made to win... 300 hundred plus airplanes to
defeate it... I'm listening just people who refuses to accept the truth...

Автор 冯剑锋 (3 месяца)
wow

Автор Quade Macagba (7 месяцев)
and grant butler question no.1 did the yamato sink cause of torpedoes? A.
it did. B. it did not

Автор John McGlannan - Realtor (1 месяц)
The USS Iowa was longer then the yamato also it depends about takitiks and
Iowa could use AP or HE rounds also Iowa could use speed and munufrubilty
to circle and Iowa was made to destroy the yamato.

Автор Charlie Tuong (8 месяцев)
why didn't the Yamato use those seaplanes it carried on the stern? they
would have given the Yamato an advantage. 

Автор dennis merrick (8 месяцев)
mighty mouse is much more interesting

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