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F1 2014 V6 Turbo Engine - ERS Explained + Renault Engine Sound Clip



An explanation, with a drawing, on how the new engines in formula 1 in 2014 will change from previous 2.4L V8's with KERS to 1.6L V6's with ERS. I also try to explain how ERS works and there is a sound clip of the new Renault "Energy F1" engine.

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Комментарии:

Автор R95FTW (8 месяцев)
They sound shit now
Nothing compares to the v12 and v10 era

Автор janusroenlev (3 месяца)
Allow me to elaborate on your explanations

the "spin" and "heat" you mention, is the rotational energy in the shaft of
the turbo, that is converted into electrical energy by attatching an
induction motor.

As for the energy that is "stored elsewhere"
The electrical energy is now stored in the hybrid electic battery, where it
can be used to increase total engine output.

Автор znmo0nlight (1 год)
For all you dumbasses, the engine will not sound that bad. That sound clip
is from the dyno which is conducted in a room indoors, most likely with
sound proofing installed.

When out in the open, it will sound much better. Just watch the vid of
Ferrari's secret 2014 engine test.

Автор adrian vlad (9 месяцев)
this year it's much drama end no show !!! the most uglyest cars !!!

Автор Andresito Cervantes (9 месяцев)
Renault 1.6L vacuum cleaner

Автор Roy Daroyni (5 месяцев)
JPetrolhead, thanks for the explanation. But there is something needs to be
clarified.
In 2014, KERS still exist and it is NOT replaced by ERS. ERS contains two
generation systems, they are: KERS (with MGUK) and HERS (with MGUH). KERS
in 2014 remains the same as KERS in previous years.

The new system is MGUH. Computer control the MGUH, when it becomes
generator it store excess-energy from turbo to a battery and when it
becomes motor, it restores the energy back, from batt to the turbo. The
parameter, that the computer refers, is fuel consumption (as you know there
is a limitation of fuel consumption). In high rpm, when the fuel
consumption is about to exceed the limit, Computer tells the MGUH to be a
generator, thus it slows down the turbo rev by storing the energy into the
batt. At the opposite condition, in low rpm, computer tells MGUH to become
motor, to restore back the energy into the turbo, thus it revs up the
compressor. By doing this, turbo-lag (in low rpm) is eliminated, and the
engine is also saving some fuel in high rpm

So, MGUH and MGUK does not connect to each other.
As a motor, MGUK connect to engine crank-shaft (to boost power), while as a
motor MGUH connect to turbo-shaft to rev-up compressor 

Автор Felipe Montejo Barnes (6 месяцев)
EL MOTOR QUE NO SUENA MOTOR.

Автор Robert Smart (1 год)
so what this means is the engines cannot be tamperd so easly and limited to
a degree where the driver is the mane force ? hard luck vetel

Автор importfilta (8 месяцев)
Kool vid. So the ers replaces the kers? Also is the ers programmed in or
can you use it manually?

Автор slug Face (1 год)
the change from V-10's to the gutless V-8's was bad
so let's add the stupidity of KERS
wait that's not enough to run up costs and
ruin interest in the sport Let's make em run these stupid power units
AND limit the fuel so that there's no chance in hell of anything other than
a boring show

Автор Gord Hooker (11 месяцев)
Many extreme opinions here, I was sad to say goodbye to the V12, and the
V10. I never really did like the V8 engines. The racing was good and KERS
and DRS did add additional elements, but lets face it, the FIA had to have
Pirelli mess with the tires to keep it interesting. Hopefully the unlimited
boost pressure will introduce new variabiles with boost, a/f ratio and
their affect on durability. IMHO cooling is going to become a big factor in
2014.

Автор Martin Singer (9 месяцев)
I love the new concept and the innovations! Best of all is that the turbo
finally made it back into F1! Going to follow F1 racing again now since
1988! Stay safe out there lads! To many of you have died far too early!

Автор Marco Baraldo (1 год)
Che merda.

Автор Jardel Cardoso (1 год)
2:45 The new F1 engine sounds like an Indycar engine

Автор Seekers Powerbuild Mobile Mechanic (1 год)
so 2015 will be restricted to 1.0 non turbo 3 cylinder engine. Well done
FIA

Автор PlaystationgamingFM (1 год)
Well played FIA. You may have just ruined the sport.

Автор david carolan (1 год)
That's not how it's going to work! The ERS is like a mini KERS running off
the impeller shaft that charges at high boost removing the need for a
wastegate, then the energy that has been stored spools the turbo back up
when turbo rpm is low so that there's no lag

Автор tim jones (9 месяцев)
fuck, you're one stupid cunt!

Автор Diego Arancibia (1 год)
stupid new sound, fuckin fia

Автор Mikey D (1 год)
I quite like where F1 power units are going these days. It's interesting
and different, which is what F1 has always been about. Sometimes it just
needs a rule change to facilitate this.

Take out DRS and, tbh, I think F1 would be a marvellous series next year. I
miss multiple lap battles where a slower car could actually defend. 

Автор dos4fix (10 месяцев)
what next? v-twin turbo? i hope harley-davidson makes engine for that lol

Автор Brandon Zobisch (10 месяцев)
curious where you found most of the details and whether there is an
estimated horsepower for these motors?

Автор Mark Ervin (10 месяцев)
Thank you for clearing that up..... it really cool technology in action but
what if this similar technology was placed in a v12? 

Автор OldVillain (11 месяцев)
It's "aitch" not haytch; there is no "H" in "aitch".
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/british/h-h#

Автор Marc Van Masten (11 месяцев)
THE TRUTH is that since 2010 the world of Formula 1 has been distorted to
make it more interesting. Ferrari , Williams, McLaren , teams which have
been damaged after a revolution on the regulations . Quite simply the team
Red Bull was clearly favored to be able to make it more competitive and
then trying to be able to collect that interest on the formula which had
waned .
The interest of Formula 1 in the years 2008/2010 has touched the bottom ,
and by doing so they wanted to bring the Formula 1 back to important
interests.
Unfortunately, doing so has ruined a sport that today has an interest equal
to moto GP if not less .
I am an aeronautical engineer , and I will not go into intricate details ,
unfortunately the advantage of Red Bull on the big is remarkable, that
advantage has delayed the development of the car.
A standardized level the gap can not be bridged before 3/4 years , and it
is what we have seen in recent years.
I'm sorry for the fans of Red Bull, but it was a historical concept of F1
to do know .

Автор deezynar (10 месяцев)
Maybe some of you guys can help me out here. I've never understood
turbochargers. Is there a lot of excess expansion in the ignited fuel/air
mixture? The exhaust valve opens and the exhaust starts to come out the
valve port either under its own excess pressure, or it waits until the
piston comes up and shoves it out. If it waits for the piston, then the
power picked up by the turbine is just coming from the other pistons that
are on their power stroke pushing the exhaust stroke pistons and acting
like an air compressor sending exhaust gas to turn the turbine. If there
is excess expansion of the fuel/air mixture, it will come out of the
cylinder on its own. But to turn the turbine it needs to push against the
piston. That backpressure creates resistance to the pistons that are on
their power stroke. That isn't much different from the air compressor
scenario I described before. In short, how is a turbocharger better than a
supercharger that is turned by the crank shaft? 

Автор blackbox1490 (11 месяцев)
this is the actual new sound of the Lotus 2014: watch?v=9cIC0l7ZiLg

Автор Al Jones Jones (11 месяцев)
'MBU Haitch lol 

Автор Backmarker Vali (10 месяцев)
subscribed.thank you!

Автор sidewayzM (11 месяцев)
it sounds like crap

Автор Youil Aushana (11 месяцев)
Dude you get an A+ for effort and your technical Photos were cool.
Everything else was pretty retarded but thanks anyway!

Автор GameNinja83 (11 месяцев)
Yea yea yea. Blah blah blah. Not only is this vid very boring but ffs tell
me something I don't know!!!

Автор mickey chudhabuddhi (11 месяцев)
so next, we'll have a v4, and finally a v2?

Автор Linda Adams (11 месяцев)
GREAT! All they need now is some fenders over the rear wheels. Then
Formula-Vettel can go race in the INDY series with all the other Barbie
Dream Team "race cars". Sheeesh!

Автор Tajil Black (1 год)
Nice. F1 2014 is going to be crazy.

Автор krunksoft (11 месяцев)
I swear some of you won't be happy until F1 starts using jet engines.Stop
whining because you know damn well you'll be watching next season and the
next after that too. Surely you don't watch these sports simply because of
the sound of the cars. You love the competition, the pageantry, the
glamour, the intensity that comes with F1 no matter what kind of drive
train they use, and that will never go away so STOP BITCHING!! Who cares
why they made the decision to switch to 1.6l V6 turbos??? It doesn't
matter. Either you're gonna watch or not. If not, there's no need to let us
all know. Just enjoy whatever other racing gets your rocks off because F1
will continue to change and evolve whether we like it or not. You have no
power to change it so just enjoy it as it is or watch reruns of old races
with engines you deem proper. Just STFU with all this bitching and whining
like a bunch of spoiled brats and give the new formula a chance.

Автор SuperWinwolf (11 месяцев)
I have a feeling you're describing this from the perspective of some one
who isnt very mechanically savvy. I don't watch much formula one but all I
can gather from your attempt at an explanation is that they are using an
electric motor to pre-spool the turbo chargers to cut down on turbo lag. It
is unlikely that they are converting heat into a stored electrical charge,
this would require a medium with witch to transfer that heat (A fluid or
gas) into kinetic energy (driving a shaft) which would then be used to
generate electricity. Doesn't make sense because the kinetic energy is
already present the only thing using heat to do this would accomplish is an
increase in parasitic loss. All this seems incredibly unnecessary to begin
with but formula 1 regs are screwed up. There is plenty of excess kinetic
energy being thrown away on one of these cars and grabbing it from the
exhaust would be absolutely pointless when you dumping so much of it into
braking. 

Автор Gord Hooker (11 месяцев)
Also, FWIW, the sound of the V6 sucks. I loved how the shriek of an F1
motor (particularly the V12/V10) would make your blood boil... 15k rpm?
Yawn.

Автор Sander Kamp (1 год)
If I'm correct in understanding, does this mean that it's not really TERS,
but just a generator making energy from the movement of the exhaust
gasses? 

Автор Davey Nature (1 год)
it will be a race to the pits no doubt, not unlike the introduction of
Kers

Автор whyasking formyname (1 год)
i hope people realise that turbos have been in f1 before.. Sennas first
championship was in a Mclaren which had a v6 honda turbo...

Автор Countryside vacs (1 год)
Very good however I think e v8 sounds better

Автор daniel ward (1 год)
Turbo's naturally reduce engine noise, so it's all exhaust note. And if the
new ers can take waste heat from the turbo and convert it into an
electrical charge, there must be a way to do the same from the exhaust
itself and get more boost for the ers

Автор Hjembrent Kent (1 год)
"5 - 3.5 bar boost" lol i don't think so, in that case they would be
immensely powerful

Автор engared (1 год)
Did you say that last bit with a straight face? HAHAHA

Автор TheMiguelangel12 (1 год)
El mejor sonido era el del ferrari de 2004 y el de 2012

Автор Vitamin J (1 год)
Are you sure that's how it works? I thought the turbo's would use a
brushless motor/generator on the impeller shaft and instead of a wastegate
the generator would take the energy out and convert it to electricity and
store it in a capacitor, and then the brushless motor can accelerate the
turbine wheel when at low RPM/spool.

Автор So Isaidtogod (1 год)
Well the "tuners" will be happy. 

Автор PlaystationgamingFM (1 год)
V8 will be back when v6s fail

Автор TheKeenaX (1 год)
Guys you all want the V12 back.. why? Noone of these F1 pussys could drive
one not even 1feet without crashing... oh and i dont say i can do i just
say they cant

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