Tuning a kick drum with a tune-bot

A video showing how I tuned my kick drum with a tune-bot. I'm using a little trick with a stick because the tune-bot will not fit well on every kick drum hoop. This works great.

In the last clip you can hear the audio of the camcorder and the audio recorded with a kick drum mic and 2 overhead mics.

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Автор Steven Velasquez ( назад)
Your drums have a gorgeous finish on them

Автор wiremessiah (498 лет назад)
How the hell did you mute the kick while playing? That just mindfucked me.

While having a solid frequency to go save and go back to on kick, I have
found, especially with a muted kick, that you are not really hearing the
fundamental too much, even more so when playing with bass. I usually just
mute the kick and get just the smack and click from it, while the resonance
comes from other precisely tuned drums. If you worry about getting the
fundamental of the kick in tune with other drums, you won't be able to get
the right beater response and timbre. The only exception is if you have a
resonant kick, but I don't really like that sound.

Автор LeafBucket ( назад)
I just got the tunebot and I have noticed a problem. Not with the tunebot
itself but with drummers, my main instrument isnt the drums although I play
a little, I just love nifty little gadgets that make instruments sound
good. In my experience drummers with little to no studio or professional
stage experience always tune their drums too low. I did sound at a show
recently where one of the drummers shared their kit. The kit was already
there and I knew the drummer (and how he doesnt really tune his drums :P)
so I started tuning up the drum before the guys arrived. I had just
finished up the rack tom when they arrived and were jokingly horrified by
how high in pitch the drum sounded. Again with humour they told me that
they didn't want me to mess with the floor tom, they whacked the drum and I
had to admit the thing sounded like a badass bass drop. After micing up the
kick the rack tom sounded great straight away, the floor tom however
sounded horrible like mud with no definition, impossible to put in a mix.
That was my realiziation and probably why the comment section on this video
is so split. Like a scooped tone guitar, über low tuned drums sound badass
acoustic and on their own, but dont really work in a mix. I bet this kick
drum with a little eq and a litte compression would sit awesome in a mix,
on its own however is a little shaky sounding. I feel like the tunebot is
teaching me how drums are supposed to sound and how to chose shells and
heads better when before I would think of it as more of a gimmick!

Автор Dez Leighton ( назад)
Very informative video Eric, thanks.

Автор Tiros & Reviews ( назад)
Tune-bot Or Drumdial/Tama TW100? who wins..

Автор Niels Emil Naumann ( назад)
I hope it sounds different in real life. cuz the mic doesn't help in this
situation xD

Автор apinakapinastorba ( назад)
Gratz on having the ultimate bass drum and the ultimate bass drum tuning

Автор apinakapinastorba ( назад)
Right, apparently your taste is just different? If that's your idea of
"dead", "horrible" and "high" sound.

Автор Niels Emil Naumann ( назад)
The pich is high, and the drum gives a really dead sound... horrible

Автор Niels Emil Naumann ( назад)
It doesn't sound good at all, i have a kick drum which is also a superstar,
in 22"x18" sounds much better, not even tuned for a while.

Автор apinakapinastorba ( назад)
But yet... it sounds great. What is this sorcery?

Автор Niels Emil Naumann ( назад)
But.. it sounds terrible?

Автор Jetpacks Jupiter ( назад)
Great video. When you sat the head and actually saw the frequency
drop........truth in itself. Thanks, JETPACKS TO JUPITER

Автор ericBdrums ( назад)
Haha, ja klopt. Ik houd niet van stilte!

Автор Mike Post ( назад)
Je hoort op de achtergrond 538. Ik dacht "waar komt die muziek vandaan?!"
want ik had geen andere vensters open staan.. bleek het jouw video te zijn,

Автор ericBdrums ( назад)
Heb ik iets gemist?

Автор Mike Post ( назад)
En ik die 538 stream maar zoeken.. is het gewoon jouw video!

Автор ericBdrums ( назад)
Great your drums sound phenomenal! I am no expert but I found that most
important for good sounding drums are: 1) proper tuning 2) quality of the
heads 3) quality of the drums.

Автор TJ ( назад)
Just used your settings on my cheap mapex q series kick and it sounds
phenomenal. P.S. I am still using the same heads from when back in 2008. I
know its time for new ones but this just goes to show how awesome right
tuning and the tune bot is!

Автор ericBdrums ( назад)
Yes. Somehow someone decided to have the blank wood on the inside and the
cherry coating on the outside. I never understood why...

Автор 1samsungsel ( назад)

Автор ericBdrums ( назад)
Glad you liked the video. No eq, EMAD2 as a batter, Tama reso head (tuned
higher), AKG 112D mic in the port hole pointing at the beater and an Evans
EQ pad slightly touching the reso head.

Автор Alex Thompson ( назад)
What do you have in your bass drum? Did you use any eq'ing at all? Do you
have the microphone in your bass drum pointed at the beater, or do you have
it where the port hole is pointed at your beater? Thanks for this video!
Your kick sounds amazing! :) - Alex

Автор Jordan Robinson ( назад)
this is the sound i want for my gretsch catlina mod kit- 20 ich bass drum
seems to suit the style and sound going for thanks a dozen, pus after
seeing this video i really wanna invest in this product

Автор ericBdrums ( назад)
A Panasonic HDC-700.

Автор rodrigo galvez ( назад)
What cam are you using?

Автор ericBdrums ( назад)
Was toen 115 GBP (besteld in de UK), is nu EUR 98 bij Thomann. Thomann riep
toen dat ze de tune-bot niet in het assortiment gingen opnemen omdat ze de
Drum Dial al hadden. Foutje bij het inschatten kennelijk.

Автор Luuk Meijwaard ( назад)
Hoeveel kostte ie je?

Автор jimmythemonkey (1145 лет назад)
I use it for everything. I find it more accurate overall

Автор 66cisneros (1224 года назад)
do you use the note indicator for the toms to or just the base drum??

Автор tokageroh1988 ( назад)
after this I can't wait to have mine *ç*

Автор ericBdrums ( назад)
For a 22"kick, a note of 1D to 1E is suggested. I had it low before but it
lacked some punch so I decided to try a 1E note.

Автор Michael Scott ( назад)
What exactly are you going for with your resonance for your kick drum?
Like, are you simply using the "low resonance" tuning method to get a
deader sound? And whatever you use, may I ask why? I'm going to get one of
these, and I want an overall good sound out of my kick.

Автор ericBdrums ( назад)
Right, I guess the note indicator is as accurate as the Hz readings when
they also displayed decimals. However, the rounded Hz values will also get
you pretty close and might prevent you from becoming too much of a
nit-picker (even though I am one). Also, as you might have guessed from my
video, giving a couple of strong hits on the head will also throw off the
tuning. One tip for tuning drums: keep on stretching the head. If you don't
do it while tuning, detuning will happen while playing.

Автор jimmythemonkey ( назад)
Exactly. The note indicator is more precise. I was a bit frustrated with
the Tune-bot until I started using the note line indicator. Now I can get
it pretty much perfect.

Автор ericBdrums ( назад)
That's a good suggestion. I notice I can hear some slight pitch differences
when the Hz readings on the tune-bot remain the same. Probably because the
line indicator can give reading in between whole Hz values.

Автор jimmythemonkey ( назад)
Good video. Sometimes if I want to get it really precise, I switch my
tune-bot to note mode and get all of the lugs to the same point there. The
line on the note indicator is even more accurate than the hz indicator!

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